Walk me through the version of you that landed in Mexico in 2010 with barely any money fresh out the military.

Jeepers well that's a different person um uh trip down memory lane so yeah I took a job off the internet work less play more uh one of the resorts I was going to be doing sports and games with the guests so um you know after the military I didn't do myself any favors ended up at mom's couch on the approach to 30 years old I did seven years in the Canadian military and when I left I Couldn't make any good decisions for my life, frankly.

I was pretty brainwashed.

I had a couple modes.

I was ready for a leave pass or I was ready to soldier hard.

And when I couldn't soldier hard, I was just on one big leave pass.

I don't know what to tell you.

And you were trying to, you were investigating stem cells for yourself.