And twins as well.

Twins, they're three, yeah.

My boy's five.

Yeah, I know.

It's mad to think, like, Santee was, like, just over two when the girls were born.

So I cried a lot when they were born because I was like, I don't know what to do.

I could see a pattern.

But

[laughs] Okay.

Yeah, they'd take my phone off, and then I used to t- like, try and sneak my SIM out the phone and put it in, like, an old phone, and they'd still catch me.

Like, they'd be really strict with me on, like, revising, 'cause I was terrible at maths.

It just used to go in one ear and out the other, and I still failed.

Um, it, yeah, so they was very...

I had to be first home all the time.

Um, I used to have to ring up my friends and say to them, "Can I stay at your house tonight?" And then I never was allowed to stay out.

Yeah.

But also, look, y- you're, you're pregnant, and you're having a kid.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And I think for me as well then, obviously going through the pregnancy, and then it was all leaked to the press, and then people really were hating on me.

Like, they were...

I w- the, the stuff I was getting and, and I never really...

And um, then when he went to prison, obviously everyone sort of blamed me, and I was a bit like, I felt like I'd done the crime.

What, what emotions did you feel?

Mm.

'Cause I've, I've always, you know, didn't wanna be judged, or if someone didn't like me, I, I hated it.

So he was like, "You're gonna get that on a larger scale." So he was a bit concerned.

But I think, yeah, I think people are always gonna compare, ain't they? So, like, when I was younger, I was, really wanted to do acting.

And that, that was something I really, really wanted to do.

... right, yeah.

So you go for an audition, and then you don't get the part and stuff.

And for me, I, I don't like rejection.

Yeah

...

I was like, I was like, "Oh, this is well light." And then you had to put 15 kilograms of sand in it.

So that was...

And including all your other stuff in there, like your, your bat, the beds that you sleep in, and all your cutlery.

And if your cutlery rattled, oh my God, they, they would, like, go absolutely mad at you.

[laughs]

I do, and then we went on the boat and stuff.Um, and then I was a bit like, "Hmm." And then he played like our, our favorite song, and then it was just so magical.