That goes back to the 90s for me.

For me, the big draw at this point in my life was a couple of years ago, I got super into chakras.

I did a deep dive into tantric literature.

And so I was looking at the Guhyasamaja and a handful of other tantric texts and trying to understand chakras were kind of my entry point to the magical world way, way back in the day.

Manheim steamroller, who you may know from doing Christmas albums, did an album that highlighted the seven chakras.

And as a kid, I ran into it and I looked at the liner notes and I was like, this is cool.

I don't know what any of this means, but I know that there's something here.

It's like, where's the Reiki here? Where's the Reiki here?