[laughs] Dana and her team then tested to see, did the guys who drank the collagen do better on any of these tests? And what they saw is that the group taking collagen supplements did better on this specific measurement that's called eccentric deceleration force.

When I looked at that first, I was like, "What is...

I don't even know what that is." Um, but if you think about, like, you're just standing there and you drop down into a squat and jump up.

So it's like the, your ability to, like, absorb, brake, that phase of the movement, so slow down and redirect that force into, like, jumping up.

You know, this is the magic bullet that's gonna drive-

Yeah, exactly.

[laughs] Peptides, people are looking for, you know, quick fixes and miracles and, um, when really the evidence is still, you know, pretty, pretty, like, equivocal, you know?

Dana and her team then tested to see, did the guys who drank the collagen do better on any of these tests? And what they saw is that the group taking collagen supplements did better on this specific measurement that's called eccentric deceleration force.

When I looked at that first, I was like, "What is- I don't even know what that is." Um, but if you think about, like, you're just standing there and you drop down into a squat and jump up.

So it's like the, your ability to, like, absorb, brake, that phase of the movement.

So slow down and redirect that force into, like, jumping up.

You know, this is the magic bullet that's gonna drive-

Yeah, exactly.

[laughs] Peptides, people are looking for, you know, quick fixes and miracles and, um, when really the evidence is still, you know, pretty, pretty, like, equivocal, you know?

So, I mean, how did this come about? Just to give some context to the paper.

It's probably a very, I think I, when Louise, Louise reached out to us to author this paper.

And as practitioners with, you know, a foot in research and academia as well, we were probably the most delinquent practitioners.

authors in that whole project.

When you're, you know, you're working full time, you don't get paid to write papers.

When you're home, you want to be with your kids and stuff.

So we were super, super delinquent.

How do you stay, how do you keep, how do you ensure that the evidence is finding its way to the rider without getting lost in all those different potential pathways and manipulate, you know, potential ways it could get manipulated? Is that even possible? How do you look at