Tell us a little bit about your background.

awesome joke that I've been studying group dynamics since birth because I'm actually a triplet.

So I, yeah, I understood what it meant to be a team player and often leadership development very early on.

But I actually started my professional career at being accepted into a leadership development program as a participant myself, which I started in hospitality operations, which Feels very full circle to have started in a leadership development program and now having spent my career really building out leadership development programs.

But as I said, my early career was in hospitality operations and If you've ever worked in hospitality, you know, you get big streams of leadership very, very early on.

You know, I kid you not, my very first week as a manager at the age of 22, I had to hire and fire someone.

All in that way, you know, we talk about being thrown in in the deep end right away.

That was a very hard transition.