He and his colleagues have been investigating Conti, and they were targeting one bit of the gang in particular.

The programmers are the hardest people to replace, right? They have a set of very specialized skills, um, and they have skills that often take years and years to learn and get good at.

It didn't take US investigators long to track Alla Witte down to Suriname, and that was very welcome news for Dan.

So one of the goals of our investigation is to focus on folks that we may be able to get hands-on, and the fact that we had a programmer living outside of Russia was certainly, uh, uh, of great interest to us.