The first one, have you seen kind of AR/VR become more important in BIM and architecture in general? And then the second question is, outside of the use case of just viewing plans, someone like you, who has maybe been around before kind of AR/VR was even a thing, do you have a couple of cool use cases or a couple of cool workflows that you will personally go through to check maybe your work or that wasn't possible before?

Yeah.

So a couple of things related to that.

Uh, first of all, fun fact, um, so we use Chaos Enscape as our, uh, on-screen real-time visualization software and, uh, also for VR.

Interestingly enough-- Well, two things.

I write blog posts for them.

They commission me to write blog posts once a month or every other month.

I mean, I think a lot of people are probably familiar with, you know, Autodesk just generally, but within Revit, kind of describe what, one, how you use it and what you use it for, and then how does it kind of fit into your overall workflow, and then we'll, then we'll move to Chaos.