Sure.

Invariably, no one really knows the definition.

The, the simple definition is free from harm or risk.

And then I show them a picture of a, a routine house fire that we run everywhere in the United States every 63 seconds.

Tell me any part about that that's safe.

Tell me any part of that that's free from harm or from risk.

And then we misuse the word all the time, and, and we don't do it haphazardly or with some nefarious intent.

Right.

Were there specific things that you found helpful in those first couple months or that early time after the diagnosis?

My wife comes from a social work background, so she'd be reading and trying to find things, and she fell upon a support group.

I never considered myself one having to go to a share group or a therapy session or a group like that.

It's been the best thing, and then it turned into Bright Spots of Hope.

And having some type of support group is incredible.

Certainly your friend group around you changes, 'cause those who are incredibly active may not be as active with you anymore because you don't have those common interests.

But we still have a good core group of friends, but when we go to Bright Spots or to the Sharing and Caring group, people are like us, have the same difficulties, and you can speak freely.

Could you talk a little bit about how that shift occurred, or how things sort of changed to still keep that general dream in mind?