
Dan Murphy
Dan Murphy is a former U.S. Department of State Policy Chief who was RIFed (reduction in force) from public service in 2025, and who discusses the impact of lost diplomatic expertise on U.S. credibility.
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Aug 20, 2026
Why Diplomacy Still Matters in a World Built on Relationships
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11:17speaker_0HOST
So where are you now? What are you doing today?

Dan MurphyGUEST
I, I was thinking at the time, I really liked the debt restructuring work and working with debt securities, and I saw the value that new debt portfolio could bring to a country that was really struggling to make ends meet.

Dan MurphyGUEST
And so when I was thinking about that and what it meant, I was going through this moment where I just couldn't believe how all of this unfolded.

Dan MurphyGUEST
And so I really did not want to be in the government under this administration, but I do like working with debt securities.

Dan MurphyGUEST
And so I thought, "Well, I guess I will work on debt for Americans." And so now I sell mortgages So if anyone needs to buy a house, please tell them that I am in business [laughs] to help them out.
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36:24speaker_0HOST
And before we go on, could you explain, since you talked about the clearance process, for those who are not in the government, can you explain what that process is for those who may not be aware?