Mm.

"Fear is a data point," and maybe it's, like, an engineering thing.

Like, ah, this is all data.

There are more things that are also data that I can't just say my perspective on life based on how I feel and what I already know is the full sum of how everything works.

What else is out there? What can I challenge? What can I try? And I think having that, the creative and engineering perspective of that, I think, has made me want to pursue those, like, deeper universal truths or, or just even understanding, like, how contexts and mediums and, like, all the tools that we have at our disposal, how do they work? How do I deploy them for different purposes? If my goal is to serve people, what serves people and how and where, you know, in, in all these different realms? So it's, I mean, a very roundabout way of saying anything that allows me to kind of model, like, the, those intangibles about myself and about connecting with people, that always-- I'm always very drawn to that, and I've always found that that, like, leaning into that and finding things in that space are, like, the most rewarding things to explore publicly because then you discover-

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... watching interviews with the showrunner, Tony Gilroy, for some reason, like, I went down this rabbit hole of just, like, all the, like, podcasts he was on.

I think he went on a little, um, like a mini press tour after Season 2 to kinda help drum up Emmy, um, consideration for his team, which was super rad, and, like, it did...

Mm.

So that's the reason I looked at online, online courses and creating them.

'Cause I could see a sort of passive revenue stream that's gonna bring in enough money to actually make this happen.

Um, so it's kind of evolved a little bit.

It started o- off with, with restorations, and then I sort of pushed out into this direction, and now we actually don't take on any paid work from any customers.

It's all funded, um, digitally.

So, um, so yeah, it's, it's shifted a little bit, and initially that was quite hard because, you know, building the courses and I only had one course initially.

I like that.