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So first of all, my transition from Likud to Israel Betayino was based on values.

When I moved to Israel in 2009, I moved from Canada and I moved out of Zionism.

I left everything I knew.

I left a promising career after I finished McGill Law School at age 23.

I left my family and that stayed back there.

And I decided to make Aliyah out of Zionism.

So what do you think resigning from Likud at the time you did actually ended up achieving?

What is Ishtar al-Beitain's plan to keep Ishrasif?

So first of all, I think that we have to look at history a little bit in order to understand Israel Bethenu's perspective on defense.

Because without sounding too campaignish, because I know that you want this podcast to be more on policy, Avigdor Lieberman, the head of the Israel Bethenu party, foresaw what would happen on October 7 in 2016.

He wrote a A very urgent letter to the prime minister saying that we need to take preventive, preemptive, sorry, action against Hamas in order to stop what he predicted would happen, which is Hamas going inside our border, bringing the battle to us, taking over Yishuvim in the Gaza envelope and taking hostages back there.

In 2016, he pretty much predicted what would happen on October 7th and demanded preemptive action.

He was answered with ignoring his request and in 2018, he quit his post.

as a defense minister because of that and also because of the Qatari money that started flowing in.

What are you going to do about that?

So tell us some of that backstory.

So first of all, I come in with very clear right-wing principles in the most classical way of describing what right-wing is.

Ronald Reagan called it a three-legged stool.

That you have the one leg, which is conservative, social conservative, he called the conservative movement.

That's how we call the right wingers in the States, right? So the social conservatism, which in Israel, I would translate that to socialism.

understanding that Israel is the Jewish state of the Jewish people, the nation state of the Jewish people, with everything that that entails.

Doesn't mean the religious coercion or any of that stuff.

Can you walk us through that?

What do you mean by that? What does that mean, hijacked?

So that's interesting because it's on so many different layers that it will take a few seconds in order to understand.

So I appreciate having this podcast, which is a longer form because it's been hijacked by many, many different ways and angles.

The most basic way, and that's something that we can very clearly see on the issue that we've been discussing, is that the coalition dynamics and the fact that we've made it very clear that our coalition partners are the ultra orthodox parties and that they will be and that we will be forever loyal to them and that that that reality caused us to leave many of our values it's true on enlistment and by the way it's not only enlistment because there's two very very important challenges that the integration of the ultra orthodox community within israeli society brings one is That's what we've been thinking about this whole time.

But there's another one which is incredibly important, and that's economic integration.

Right now, only women in the ultra-Orthodox community work at the same rate as the rest of the population.

When it comes to men, the great majority of men in the ultra-Orthodox community do not work.

But there's been stories of shots fired at synagogues and schools in montreal i mean the explosion of anti-semitism there and across canada in in its entirety is just horrific what has happened and and and what can be done in your opinion