to

Lionel Messi.

And I got ahead of it.

I was like, this is hilarious.

So great.

And then he didn't know what a meme was at the time.

And he's come out and whacked me and delete this.

So how do you sort of do that and still manage a team of people and have a family?

to

Lionel Messi.

And I got ahead of it.

I was like, this is hilarious.

So great.

And then he didn't know what a meme was at the time.

And he's come out and whacked me and delete this.

So how do you sort of do that and still manage a team of people and have a family?

Mm.

Yeah.

I feel all the time like, what am I actually doing on my phone? Like little [laughs]And it'll be like, you're saying it with a tone, "No, I'm not."

Yeah [laughs].

Um, just, so like I look at everything daily, like even her mannerisms, the way she interacts with people.

She's so like loving and accepting of everyone, which is such a beautiful trait.

I go, "That's awesome." And then you see the other bits of like, I don't know how you've, you've become that because I'm quite closed off to people.

I'm just sending that to my mom.

You are the OG paver in this space, mate.

So, um, I know that hopefully the work that we get to do now with them, you know, you for doing the early work, get to use some of that vision as well, which I think it's been great.

So it was a really cool experience to have the vision.

Never been done before.

The AFL, Kayo and Seven have been great with that.

Um, and I see it as a great opportunity for, you know, people like us to keep now hopefully these doors open, and we can make content off that.

That would be so funny.

Dan, we've, uh, we haven't got Neil today, but it was a nice touch to, to come down the slide with his portrait.

Yeah, I mean, uh, no, no, all that's been said, not enough will be said what an honor it is to, uh, obviously play a small part in a big day.

Neil's such a legend, a fighter, inspirational also, to play a little part in bringing him down with me, um, yeah, again, just an honor.

Can you believe the impact he's had?

No, I can.

Yeah, I can.

The way he fought for so long, the way he inspired, yeah, I think I can.

It'll only get bigger.

Mm-hmm

... all the harsh feedback, all the lows that are coming with this experience.

And as an 18-year-old, you're like, "I've never experienced anything like this." So I was like, "So we, we train, like, on, like, 5:00 PM on a Monday night, and then I'll see you guys, like, on Wednesday at 5:00 PM? Like, how does this work?" And they were like, "No, you come back every day.

And every day we're gonna tell you how bad you are at something, and that you need to fix it." So I was like, "This, this is very rare for me, because I've been really good at this one thing-

Yeah.

And very much was ready to kill myself.

There is the, the dog, and then the feeding the dog incident, which I, I spoke about where I fed my dogs for the last time, and then was like, walked out that door with in the mindset of like this is my last few moments on earth.

And then couldn't do it.

Dan, we've, uh, we haven't got Neil today, but it was a nice touch to, to come down the slide with his portrait.

Yeah, I mean, uh, enough's, uh, not...

All that's been said, not enough will be said what an honor it is to, uh, obviously just play a small part in a big day.

Neil's such a legend, a fighter, inspirational also.

To play a little part in bringing him down with me, um, yeah, again, just an honor.

Can you believe the impact he's had?

No, I can.

Yeah, I can.

Yeah

... eventually unfortunately takes their life.

So I think given Neale and, and with Jai we'll have kind of both codes and both fans across, um, all sports in Australia tuning in.

And, um, each year it seems to get bigger and bigger and bigger.

What do you think it's gonna be like, the first Big Freeze without Neale Daniher there? It's gonna be a very emotional one, yeah?

Yeah, massively emotional.

I think, you know, um, emotional.

Uh, hopefully everyone who can go and get a beanie or donate through the virtual beanie links that are out there at the moment.

What are your thoughts on that? Did they handle that the wrong way? Because they've been fine for it now

yeah I mean being fined obviously means that they've done something that wasn't good or they've somehow messed up the handling of it all so again there's no details in it I know that's come out recently since the fine but a 75k fine that felt light for sitting a guy out there who clearly was in no condition to be playing football so so you think they should be fined more Yeah, like 750k.

It just wasn't good.

It wasn't good.

It was, yeah, anytime, like if the whole stadium knows that something's wrong with one player and the club doesn't, then what are we doing here? It's tough being a blue supporter right now.

buying it, yeah.

Yeah, no, I've asked her.

We had a chat.

the wrong way because they've been fined for it now.

Yeah, I mean, being fined obviously means that they've done something that wasn't good or they've somehow messed up the handling of it all.

So, again, there's no details in it I know that have come out recently since the fine, but a 75k fine, that felt light for sitting a guy out there who clearly was in no condition to be playing football.

So, it's all hard.

So, you think they should be fined more? Yeah, like 750k.

It just wasn't good.

It wasn't good.

buying it, yeah.