Dan acknowledged that despite the holes in Darren's story, the basic facts of the case still weighed in the defendant's favor.

The self-defense claim, um, on its face may seem a little ridiculous, but at the end of the day, when you actually take everything into, like, a...

You know, you funnel it down, there's two people in that tent, and, um, and Dustin was the one with the firearm.

And so I think that becomes, uh, somewhat problematic.

These photos and videos not only demonstrated a shocking callousness, they also gave John and Dan the evidence they needed to suggest a motive.

And I think what was somewhat challenging for John and I is what was the motive for Darren Abbey to kill Dustin? What really was the motive? And, um, I believe that it was, it was about taking Dustin's things.

I mean, people have killed for a lot less.

It wasn't a lot of items.