well speaking specifically about a specific camera something i wanted to ask you about is i know you operated um a steadicam and have done a lot specifically on on spider-man and for listeners who don't know and maybe you can touch on it as well it's basically a kind of like a body mounted camera it allows the operator to kind of move around freely but the the the the shot stays smooth and stays sleek and as i said you use this on spider-man and can you talk a little bit about what that camera is like practically to use but also from a storytelling perspective like why you make the decisions to use a camera like that in any particular sequence

hmm Yeah, so going to start with that shot, I think I know the one you're talking about, the one I think I've posted, where Spider-Man gets flipped and Scorpion's tail smashes him across the floor.

That, for me, obviously you've got the stunt guy getting launched across the floor and on wires.

I mean, the guys on the wires were amazing and it was so consistent and, and, uh, the danger was low, but there's always that, that element of it could go wrong.

So as a camera operator, you've got to make sure you nail this shot all the time so that we're not going again, smashing this guy across the floor for me.

Uh, But this particular timing, Pang wanted to be over the right shoulder of Scorpion to cut well from the previous shot.

And I had to be over the other side for the hit, almost.

And I wonder for you, which one felt the most challenging or you felt sort of allowed you to grow a lot in your approach or try something different?