The only thing we didn't dive in on is Dan's background, which, you know, like I said, if you go into the internet world, there's no background on it.

Well, I mean, it's pretty basic because I don't know how to say this without sounding full of myself.

I was really privileged and fortunate that my father was as skilled as he was, but more importantly, what a great dad and like teacher he was.

So he always wanted me by his side.

And even when I was a pain in the neck, you know, in the shop, I was still there.

And he tolerated me.

And I just wanted to do what he did.

How was that... conversation with them like was it a hey dad I'm thinking of this or was it like hey dad I'm doing this like was there was there a build-up