I was surprised when you told me you'd bought a saddle, but what led to that decision, and why not a tree stand?

So, like it, it literally, the whole, um, the reason behind it was the Stewart Island trip.

That was, that was my, um, whole thought process there.

I, I thought, "Well, I'm, I'm not gonna go over there, um, and just bush bash around." Obviously, the way to do it is sitting in trees as, as we, you know, a lot of the people that we've listened to and talked to and that.

Like, that's, that's the, that's the go-to.

And for me, I've hunted out of tree stands before, um, and been successful, uh, a couple of times, but haven't had a lot of experience out of them.

Uh, but I just didn't wanna go over there lugging this great big frame around through that dreadful thick bush that we were expecting and just, um, end up sort of going, "Right, this is me spot.

Yeah