And I started by asking him about that Toronto Sun op-ed and the breaching of the, uh, or broaching of the conversation in the establishment media about this topic.

Yeah, that one, uh, came out, like, almost a week after the whole thing was over.

But there was actually a journalist from the Toronto Sun who was there inside the inquiries.

His name is Joe Warmington, and Joe Warmington's based.

He's awake.

He, he, he knows what's up.

He's been following my work.

What can people do to further this conversation and get us closer towards the actual accountability that we need to see for these crimes?

So Dan, tell us in plain English, what is C-8 about, and what does it threaten to do to Canadians?

Well, this one goes back quite a ways, James.

Um, you can track this back.

It's, it's essentially a cybersecurity bill is, is what it's being, you know, painted as.

Um, but really, it's, it's essentially an internet kill switch on, uh, on, on you.

You know? It, it's not going after cyber threats.

It's going after anybody who goes against the status quo.

Which is anything they say it is, of course

So Dan, tell us in plain English, what is C-8 about and what does it threaten to do to Canadians?

Well, this one goes back quite a ways, James.

Um, you can track this back.

It's, it's essentially a cybersecurity bill is, is what it's being, you know, painted as.

Um, but really it's, it's essentially an internet kill switch on, uh, on, on you.

You know? It, it's not going after cyber threats.

It's going after anybody who goes against the status quo.

Which is anything they say it is, of course