What do you think, what kind of, what did you learn from attending that particular summit? Do you

know what? It was, the conference world is a new world to me, Joe.

It's, it was, Joe, initially it was, it was really intimidating and quite daunting in a good way.

I'd know, I'd, don't put myself out there in that way, but it was absolutely fascinating.

The fact I emailed, um, Dr. Lisa Holmes, who, who, who ran and hosted it as a, as a thank you.

Cause it's sort of, as I've gone away, more is coming sort of back to me and I've created a reflection for my team at the home.

Um, I'd never really, and this is probably really naive of me to say, um, never really thought of children's homes outside of the bubble that I live in.

I suppose the sterile nature of residential care, sometimes the policies, the procedures, you know, all this kind of stuff, you know, you have highlighted the bit about love has been really important, you know, but what do organisations need to provide so adults can remain relational, presenting love safely and be reflective and emotionally available? What do we need to do?