And why is this an area that the National Party believe that there is a need for change in?

Well, we've got an ageing population.

There's a larger number of New Zealanders that are set to retire, and retirement villages are part of the solution, but they don't fit for everybody.

So we need to make sure we've got a broad range of options for New Zealanders as they age.

So that's why we've got a policy around 20% of housing flexible fund for that ageing.

But we've also got other things, Alex, around expanding our successful granny flat law so that more people can build homes faster and cheaper, and also making it easier to build tiny homes, for example, to extend that from granny flats to tiny homes.

I think those will make a real difference to housing opportunities.

Does the National Party have any concern over such a large chunk of the population being left unable to vote come election day?

The details of this obviously haven't been announced yet, but I wanted to ask how this fits into National's plans moving forward.

Well, look, we don't want to be in this position where we're having to consider LNG.

However, Labour's ban on oil and gas exploration has put us in a tough position.

Report after report says the same thing, which is we lack base-level capacity to look after New Zealand during dry years.

And that base-level capacity really is currently being fulfilled by coal at the moment.

and a declining number of oil and gas.

That is why we are in the position where we are looking at LNG importation in the LNG importation gas terminal.

And when we look at the National Party's vision of what this terminal looks like, is that something that's likely to be affected by coalition agreements and the position of other parties? Or does there seem to be kind of a cross-coalition consensus on the movements for the LNG? I