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Dali Kaafar

Dali Kaafar

Sep 27, 2026

2:11
So if you can give us a bit of a context on the lay of the land, how has AI enabled threats is evolving the cybersecurity space fairly quickly.
2:21
All right.
2:21
Very good morning, everyone.
2:23
It's Apathe, actually, and it's named after the Greek goddess of deception.
2:28
I'll talk a little bit about it.
2:30
I'm actually so disappointed I didn't come up with my T-shirt, which is I'm in the deception business.
2:36
And for those of you who know what Apathe is, may or may not have heard about it, I'll talk a little bit about it because it's got a lot to do with AI, but weaponizing AI for good.

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16:49
Which AI-enabled threat is most likely to catch critical infrastructure operators off guard in the next 12 to 24 months?
17:02
How similar? Are they cousins, first cousins? Have you had contact with that business or is it sort of something that was built in parallel, but yours obviously seems like it's got many personas?
17:14
Yeah.
17:14
So there's even more, I think, another precedent to that.
17:17
And his name is Lenny and actually he's Australian.
17:20
If you go and look up for Lenny on YouTube, you'll find heaps of examples of This Australian, I think, was really portraying a 72-year-old Australian fellow who was taking calls from scammers.
17:33
And Lenny was a very interesting precedent, right? Because Lenny was running on a static list of 16 different sort of script sentences that Lenny kind of repeated constantly, you know, against scammers.
17:47
And Lenny was an amazing, really was very positive news for us when we've seen Lenny because it was very static and it was responding to scammers and Lenny could really keep scammers on the line for I think 54 minutes or so was really like the record of conversations, thousands by the way.

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24:44
Wow.

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