Dale, what's your overwhelming response as you've watched Fremantle from the club that you helped build all those years ago to where it is now?

Well, it's totally different now.

You know, for expansion clubs, you may have heard this many times before, but we were probably given the least out of all the clubs to come into the AFL, by the AFL.

And, you know, there's been talk about players that we let go and stuff, but some of those players didn't want to come, and I know that for a fact.

But the club now is a whole lot more professional, and to get that professionalism, unfortunately, the club's moved to Coburn.

It's not that far away, but it's still out of Fremantle, and I love going down to Fremantle, and I loved going and watching the girls play there last year, but they've moved down to Coburn as well, just recently.

So, no, the club is, professionally, it is It should be where it is now because of the stuff that the boys are given and also the boys that they have there are playing.

How would you go today and how would you change what would you change in your game if you were playing today?

So what do these, you know, the Sir Doug Nicholls round and obviously, you know, Reconciliation Week mean to Dale Kickett in that regard?

Well, I think it's just another bit of recognition for uh, all our crew and, and how we've got to, uh, where we, where we have got to particularly AFL we're talking about.

So, um, uh, in the AFL, we've probably come from a little further back than a few other people.

And, um, uh, it's an opportunity for us to tell our stories as, as how we get to, uh, uh, this place and, and, you know, uh, what Doug Nichols did in his time, um, what, uh, even fellas that didn't play, I feel like Stephen Michael and, um, you know, uh, and, and what they did and, uh, uh, the crackers and, and everybody that went before us.

And, and so, yeah, I suppose we've done some, um, um, you know, pretty good stuff in, in modern times.

I'm talking about, uh, you know, uh, Longy and, um, Nicky and, uh, and we got the Indigenous All-Star Games going.

And as I said before, they're all part of what we can do to tell our story.

If you could change one thing that you believe would take it forward again in a proactive way, what would that one thing be, do you think?

So what do these, you know, the Sir Doug Nicholls round and obviously, you know, Reconciliation Week mean to Dale Kickett in that regard?

Well, I think it's just another bit of recognition for uh, all our crew and, and how we've got to, uh, where we, where we have got to particularly AFL we're talking about.

So, um, uh, in the AFL, we've probably come from a little further back than a few other people.

And, um, uh, it's an opportunity for us to tell our stories as, as how we get to, uh, uh, this place and, and, you know, uh, what Doug Nichols did in his time, um, what, uh, even fellas that didn't play, I feel like Stephen Michael and, um, you know, uh, and, and what they did and, uh, uh, the crackers and, and everybody that went before us.

And, and so, yeah, I suppose we've done some, um, um, you know, pretty good stuff in, in modern times.

I'm talking about, uh, you know, uh, Longy and, um, Nicky and, uh, and we got the Indigenous All-Star Games going.

And as I said before, they're all part of what we can do to tell our story.

If you could change one thing that you believe would take it forward again in a proactive way, what would that one thing be, do you think?

So what do these Sir Doug Nicholls round and obviously Reconciliation Week mean to Dale Kickett in that regard?

Well, I think it's just another a bit of recognition for uh all our crew and and how we've got to uh where we where we have got to particularly rfl we're talking about so um uh in the rfl we've probably come from a little further back than a few other people and um uh it's an opportunity for us to tell our stories as how we get to uh this place and and you know uh what doug nichols did in his time um what, uh, even fellas that didn't play, I feel like Stephen Michael and, um, you know, uh, and, and what they did and, uh, uh, the crackers and, and everybody that went through before us.

And, and so, yeah, I suppose we've done some, um, um, you know, pretty good stuff in, in modern times.

I'm talking about, uh, you know, uh, Longy and, um, Nicky and, uh, and we got the Indigenous All-Star Games going.

And as I said before, they're all part of what we can do to tell our story.

And so everybody understands that we keep talking about we're coming from probably off the starting blocks a metre or two behind or a bit further.

So the people that don't understand that, Give us an opportunity to inform them, learn, teach them.

If you could change one thing that you believe would take it forward again in a proactive way, what would that one thing be, do you think?

Just describe the actual town where you were living and what would you do for fun as a kid?

Footy was a stable diet of what we did.

We, Tamin is a town of probably 300 to 400, fluctuated up and down.

It's a weeding sheep out in the weep out of, in the avon.

My dad grew up, well, when I grew up in Tamin, my dad was a shearer, worked on the farms and, you know, so on, had a crops and harvesting and driving trucks around the place for a few of the farmers in that area.

And growing up, that's what I thought I would do if I didn't make a grain footy.

But playing a little bit of footy and come down to Perth to go to school changed things a bit.

But how did you sort of develop your evasive skills and even just your ball skills and everything as a kid and then teenage years?