Cool.

And it was like a dream interview.

And he, um, older man, he just talks about, uh, how he grew up in a home with ...

His dad was a pastor.

They had no money.

And that they, um ...

People, parishioners of their church would drop off vegetables and used clothing for them because they had a larger family, and he would watch his parents tithe back financially on things that were donated, and they'd figure out what that was probably worth.

Mm-hmm.