What's your experience, I suppose, more generally of those forgotten suds approaches?

Going back to the role of the landscape architect in nature-based solutions.

So the role is to capture water close to where it falls, and that means it's capturing through natural means and then letting it drain across the landscape.

Find a way to work with nature, with agriculture.

So we're going back, you know, even pre-Bronze Age, where because the settlements are a lot smaller, you can find already examples of water harvesting and collecting water, using it for irrigation, collecting it, finding way of using it close to where it falls.

Water management has always been something very much connected with religion, with climate, and with political power.

Go back to ancient Egyptians.

So it would be remiss of me though not to ask you what some of the challenges are and that you've experienced as a landscape architect in terms of are SUDS applicable everywhere? Is sustainable drainage something that we should just be doing all the time, or what are some of the trade-offs, I guess? Where is this maybe not as rosy as it might currently sound?