How are you coaching your clients on the right way to handle these cases in terms of the goal is long-term soundness and career longevity versus... shoring these horses up to get them just sound enough for the next show and the next show so are you seeing them more often as well and what preventive maintenance are you deploying i mean you work on horses where they could be hitting their peak at 14 15 even older so how do you approach these cases for longevity because you're working on some pretty high level horses

Well, I think it's, you have to meet your clients halfway.

You know, there's going to be moments where the horse has to get back in the ring.

You know, they're chasing roll cut points or the syndicate owners are in town and the horse needs to be in the ring, right? So in those moments, you have to find a way to help the horse feel comfortable to have a little bit more, you know, endurance and get back into the ring.

But I find myself... saying to clients, okay, this is what I see coming and let's look at the schedule.

And so even though it's, maybe it's proactive, even just looking at the schedule, we'll sit when I was team vet, we would sit with the schedule and like, say you have a horse that, you know, doesn't feel super great after the farrier comes.

So let's figure out where we want the farrier to come relative to the outing that is planned, you know, in the middle of Wellington for the CDIW.

But talk to me about that because you do live in this world every single day.