But are there other people or experiences that shaped who you are as a leader?

For sure, I talked about one of them already is Gerald.

Like here, Gerald Cooper, here's a guy that is managing international portfolios out of Calgary, Alberta.

So talk about someone that's... setting his own path and not following the crowd, which is very important, I think, not only in the investment world, but in life in general, if you want to differentiate yourself.

Gerald also was very committed to the community, always reiterated to me the importance of supporting the community that's supporting us.

It's like, it can't be a one-way relationship.

That always has to be a two-way relationship if you want to be successful as a business.

Talk a little bit about the history, but tell us about how big you are, where you operate, and what makes you distinctive in the investment landscape.