Mm

... type of person, hold my views to myself type of pe- Within my own community, I was very vocal.

But when it became business and what I was doing in entrepreneurship, I, I was very much stay in your lane, don't be controversial because it'll cost you.

And through business, for me, I'd actually done exceptionally well in business.

I had five fitness clubs, set up 22 franchises, built an online business that stemmed into over 100 countries at the time.

And the reason I transitioned out of retail into some more online-based, uh, opportunities was really the experience of the global financial crisis.

Understand that.

What are the insights? What can we learn? And how does it work for you?