So thinking about being a pilot, I can only imagine the price or the cost that that has on you as an individual.

Yeah.

So I'll segment this into two portions, maybe early in a career and a startup and then later in established because they are different prices and costs to you as an individual.

probably when you're first starting, the passion's there.

Okay, you're there, you're committed.

So you don't really feel those personal costs.

Also, life's a lot less complicated as a young person for responsibilities to other family members or things like that.

So on the flip side, what are the fun things? What are the benefits? What keeps you, what has kept you in aviation, you know, for the last 30 years?