But talk about this ideological capture of

the academy.

For sure.

So, yes, Said is one of the four main godfathers of academia, at least in the social sciences that I refer to in the book.

The first I already mentioned, Karl Marx.

The second is Antonio Gramsci, the Italian communist writing prior to World War II.

Fanon, Jay, you had mentioned Fanon, Frantz Fanon, the North African political theorist who was all about decoloniality and resistance.

for this day um for a while even not to say that they knew what was going to happen but they were planning for you know something to really galvanize the red green alliance could you talk about a bit more about the importance of 10-7 in retrospect and like were you surprised by what suddenly broke out on rice and and other college campuses

How are you dealing with this kind of oppositions and confrontations between academic or social discourses?

Yeah, it's not an easy position to be in.

And a lot of people are confused about my recent criticism.

But let me try to explain.

And by the way, I'm going to tackle all these issues in my next book, which should be out this year.

It's called When Marx Meets Islam.

navigating radical ideologies and defense of the West.

What is your perspective on all these events?