If we think about those options and the ways that firms are restructuring and changing, how are they funding it? So if we look at this huge systemic change in some areas, AI, talent, what are the funding options that are available to them?

I think options for funding growth within legal firms continues to expand.

And what it means is firms don't have to dilute their equity to access capital that's really transformative for their business.

So I think a lot of law firms think of major capital injections into a firm.

The logical thought at the moment is private equity, and there's a lot of discussion about that.

You and I have had many discussions outside of this podcast around that.

It's becoming a bigger part of the conversation, but I think it's important for firms to remember and be aware that traditional, more structured banking options have definitely evolved.

So Courtney, tell me, what is the lender appetite right now in the legal sector? And what does that really tell us about where we're at in that transformation?