Yes.

Yes.

So in the United States, we actually have a specially trained position in the OR.

A little bit of the history that I learned is it started in World War II.

They had a lot of medics or...

Yeah, medics that were on the boats.

And they were helping in surgery.

won't name any names.

Yeah.

I think I had a lot of humbling to do and giving back to my family.

And I was very much at a place where I was like, "If music is no longer a healing thing in my life, then I need to let it go." And I had just come to that crossroads of like through some physical hand injuries but also just my relationship with it.

I just needed to be very open-handed with it.

And in that time, the practice of rising early in the morning and really just like showing up, and if there was a song, then I would be there to write it.

That was a practice that I started then, and I think I really held to that because I didn't have much else to hold to.

I was just needing to be open-handed and follow whatever that was gonna lead to without really knowing what it was gonna lead to.

Mm-hmm.