When you were working with Secretary General Boutros Boutros-Ghali, where did you go? I n- understand that part of your role was to travel with him.

Yes, I went.

[laughs] I mean, I have these incredible memories of this trip.

Um, he wanted to visit, uh, Honduras, Guatemala, El Salvador, and Haiti.

So we went on this whirlwind visit of those countries.

So, um, everywhere we went on this little plane, we had adventures.

[laughs] It was absolutely amazing.

For people who've forgotten what oil for food was, can you just explain for me?