And can you talk a little bit about why do you even do a President's Club event? What's important about that? And then maybe take us a little behind the scenes of what goes into setting something like that up.

So our inheritance, I'll say, of President's Club, we're also really new with our President's Club program.

We are, I think this was our... third or fourth year doing it this past March where we had all of our winners go to Barcelona.

So I would say we're still pretty nascent in this space, but it's been a hugely rewarding process being able to own it from an enablement side.

You might question like, why is enablement working on a president's club versus maybe another team? I actually see seller recognition as part of an enablement function inherently.

And it's kind of a unique experience from enablement perspective where We get to see these folks from onboarding.

We get to see them through their challenges and through their successes as an AE or whatever role that they're in.

How did you think about kind of your progression and what advice would you give to other folks who want a career like yours?