[laughs]

And it's weird, like, I really wanted...

And, and, and most of that was out of curiosity, by the way.

It wasn't like I wanted to talk shit or whatever.

Like, I, I really wanted, I was really curious about it, you know? And, um, I remember I sort of, uh, reached my foot in and just kind of like kicked the kick drum like three or four times on the red kit, and it fired like a cannon.

Like, I was like, "All right," you know? And then I had to go do what I was doing or whatever, and I remember kind of walking away thinking to myself like, "Ah, I wish I would've played everything else," because it's pretty easy to make a bass drum sound like a bass drum, right? Like, I was like, "Eh," you know? Um, a- and so my, the one thing that I've, uh, wondered a lot about is, uh, the bearing edge, the ply of flatness, snare beds, like all the, all those hallmarks that really made OC OC back in the day.

It made me wonder about that stuff.

Yeah.