What did you start looking at 15 years ago or a little over 15 years ago when you founded your business? I'm

going to give a very abbreviated version of my story.

The thing I always like to say to people is like my My story in this space is not one that can or even should be replicated.

So when I was still in college, I was very interested in markets and I was getting a degree in computer science and I started working on building some investment models for my own use and was introduced to a local asset manager outside of Boston who saw what I was working on and asked whether they could licensed the research for basis points.

And I was so naive.

I did not even know what a basis point was at the time.

Right.

What about the strategy side? So you're moving away from tactical asset.