But like how do you have confidence in the face of doubt?

I think that, um, it, it, for me, that moment, and the moment feels like a million years, but the moment is actually the part where, like, all, everything just kind of falls away.

Because yeah, like, you know, some days you're feeling it more and it, it's a bit of an ebb and flow, right? Like, uh, I'm no stranger to, to losing friends in the mountains, unfortunately.

And what's interesting to me is how that manifests differently across different chapters of your life, and even just, like, timing is, is funny.

Like, um, my best friend Johnny Morricato, he and I have climbed mountains together for, for a decade, and, uh, we climbed all the 14ers together.

We've been on just insane expeditions.

Um, he's the best.

Uh.