But we were conditioned to think like that, you know, the special K diet or, you know, I can just eat cereal for my breakfast.

Cereal is probably more so even breakfast than the idea of people under-eating.

Most people under-eat.

They under-eat their breakfast, they under-eat their lunch, and they might eat an adequate dinner that would have a balance of, let's say, two more certainly veg and a meat source.

But still, even at that, I would always love to, you know, say, bump up two main protein sources with, you know, say, any one of your main meals.

But going back to the likes of the breakfast, Right? Like eggs are literally a multivitamin for anyone to consume for, I'm going to say, a breakfast starting off.

And those are the last things that we take out of people's diet.

You just give it a small patch in the garden.

You know, what gave you that interest to actually go into horticulture to begin with, actually?

I'll be as straight up and honest as I possibly can in these podcasts.

And, uh, my mam and dad are, uh, nurses and retired, uh, psychiatric nurses now.

And after that, I chose to do [laughs] uh, sports and rec in college but didn't get enough points in my, uh, Leaving Cert 'cause I definitely wouldn't, uh, imagine me as a student.

Um, didn't make those 300 points that I was meant to get, so second thing on the CAO was horticulture, and it was, the reason why I put that down, it's 'cause it was an outside job.

I actually couldn't possibly sit down for too long, and that's why I was actually chatting to you before this, I was like, "This can't be too long.

Why?" And you were like, "Why?" And I was like, "More so really straight up, I can't sit down for that long." Um, I wanna be moving.

Right.

So what actually brought you, you know, what gave you that interest to actually go into horticulture to begin with, actually?

I'll be as straight up and honest as I possibly can in these podcasts.

And my mum and dad are nurses and retired psychiatric nurses now.

And after that, I chose... to do sports and rec in college, but didn't get enough points in my leaving cert, because I definitely wouldn't, imagine me as a student, didn't make those 300 points I was meant to get.

So second thing on the CAO was horticulture.

And it was the reason why I put that down, it's because it was an outside job.

I actually couldn't possibly sit down for too long.

yeah sun gazing absolutely i mean the sun is outside every day i mean okay it might be clouds but it's still outside and definitely the blue blocking glasses as well i know you've you've used them yourself you might have them to hand i don't know i should probably have been wearing mine tonight it's getting well it's not fully dark yet but um i'll be using them later i think they're an absolute game changer as well definitely so Yeah,