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But, you know, but it's still funny.

Um, but my spon-- uh, my sponsor was a real Big Book reader, doer, and believer.

And, um, she started me as soon as, um, I latched onto her.

How I got my sponsor was I, um, uh, someone had told me who, uh, who knows where I heard it, but I heard that you needed to get a sponsor, and you needed to get one fast.

So, um, I got, I latched onto this lady, um, mainly because she seemed genuinely happy to see me.

And, and I was always-- I felt very comfortable in her presence.

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What are the emergencies that you have in your mind to prepare for?

Any type of inconvenience.

I mean, it, it can be a minor inconvenience like a flat tire in which, you know, I've got first aid and blankets and things of that nature in my vehicle, and I know how to repair a tire.

But it could be something more significant.

I mean, we've had several attempts to, to dampen our electrical supply.

Several hacks have been thwarted.

And the problem is, is if one of those transformers goes down, it's not about, oh, we'll just go into the transformer warehouse and bring out another one.

So that's a threat that needs to be considered.

The atmosphere is heavy this year.

She rang every year and, like, back in the day when mobile phones weren't such a thing, she knew where we were every year for Christmas.

It was filled with questions, questions that Colleen, Shantell's sister, couldn't help staring in the face.

What's stopping her? What's, what's the problem this year? Brazil has phones, too.

Yeah.

What was stopping her from contacting us? Suspicions started to arise.

Her friend Colleen was there.

She let out this blood-curdling scream and ran down the hall, and the sheriffs came sprinting.

They didn't know what had happened.

They just heard this scream and came sprinting down after her.

Colleen looked over at Saskia, crumpled in the passenger seat, and she could see Saskia was broken.

It was a betrayal of everything that she thought was secure.

It was sexual trauma and assault.

That was one of the most horrific things I could ever imagine for anybody.

They should go get a protective order right away.

People who've been found out or who are about to lose control are really dangerous.

That's when you see people getting desperate and doing things, killing themselves, killing other people.

That's the highest risk time period.

So the first thing was to have immediate safety.

Colleen went after her.

She let out this blood-curdling scream and ran down the hall, and the Family Justice Center is co-located with the sheriffs just because of the high risk of domestic violence, and the sheriffs came sprinting.

They didn't know what had happened.

She remembers the first time she met Saskia at a team training during an icebreaker.

No one was responding when asked for volunteers, and Saskia was just like, "Okay," and like jumped in and was just fun and energetic.

Colleen, where are you?

My story is, uh, I lost my sister to pancreatic cancer, and a year later, my brother called to say he had pancreatic cancer as well, and would I come live with him and be his caretaker? And I did, and he lived for 14 months, and what I found interesting about their relationship...

At first, I was very angry with Claire.

The idea pierced him with its strangeness." I know you must have felt this with your brother and your sister, too.

I did, and I, uh, you know, personally for me, I've never married nor do I have children, and I never even had a pet, so I only took care of me, and I thought, "How am I going to take care of my brother who's entrusting me?" And I was scared that I wouldn't be able to do the job.

This is Colleen.

I was on probation for my first DUI, and I got 45 years to life.

And I killed three people.

And I've been here almost 10 years.

So tell us about that, and then Lauren, I'd love to hear your thoughts on Colleen's situation.

The way that I was raised was with the understanding of if someone owns their own business, they set their prices, and that's what they've agreed to work for.

So you don't tip.

But if someone is an employee of a company, then someone else has set the prices and you tip them.

So, uh, what I'm finding a lot in the vendor business is people who we're hiring own their own businesses.

But every piece of advice I'm getting is that you tip for, like, every single thing that you use for the wedding.

So these two different pieces of advice of what I was raised believing about tipping culture and what I'm seeing all online are in direct contrast, and obviously we're setting our budget, and the tipping will take us over, which I recognize.

I, I think it, it could well be worth it.