So I think very much about these sorts of influences.

Yeah.

The grooming was just disgusting, you know? Yeah.

For him, I think he saw him...

One of my acting teachers from the very get-go, she said, never judge any character that you're playing.

Because if you judge your character as evil or bad, then you're going to play it almost like a caricature of who this person really is.

So you've got to approach it from everyone... everyone is motivated by something.

What, what did that tell you about what life inside that marriage had become?

Like sort of what's the appealing persona, um, personality, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, w- like, you think about what, what would that person find attractive or want to hear? And so y- you start to become calculating in how you create this persona that the outside world interacts with.

The second self-identity is the, the part of you that you feel comfortable enough to share, like when you come home and you've, you've got your, with your husband-

Mm-hmm.

And especially with m- men, we, we can go, we can get very angry, and the reason why men get angry, and, you know, women too, is because it's the fastest way to gain certainty in any situation.

And so when a man is out of control, let's say he's not feeling like he's in a great position at work, maybe he's not making as much money as he thinks he deserves, or he's not able to buy his kids what the other parents are buying, or they can't go on vacations.

And if a man feels like he's not able to be who he wants to be, the provider and the, you know, the hero, anything that can test him will make him go to this place of feeling, "You know what? I'm, I'm gonna get angry, and I'm gonna say some things" that usually they don't mean.

Um, and it's usually because it's the fastest way for people to gain certainty in a situation when they're out of control.

Like sort of what's the appealing person, um, um, personality, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, w- like, you think about what, what would that person find attractive or want to hear? And so y- you start to become calculating in how you create this persona that the outside world interacts with.

The second self-identity is the, the part of you that you feel comfortable enough to share, like when you come home and you've, you've got your, with your husband-

Mm-hmm.

And especially with m- men, we, we can go, we can get very angry, and the reason why men get angry, and, you know, women too, is because it's the fastest way to gain certainty in any situation.

And so when a man is out of control, let's say he's not feeling like he's in a great position at work, maybe he's not making as much money as he thinks he deserves, or he's not able to buy his kids what the other parents are buying, or they can't go on vacations, and if a man feels like he's not able to be who he wants to be, the provider and the, you know, the hero, anything that can test him will make him go to this place of feeling, "You know what? I'm, I'm gonna get angry, and I'm gonna say some things" that usually they don't mean.

Um, and it's usually because it's the fastest way for people to gain certainty in a situation when they're out of control.

So I think very much about these sorts of influences.

Yeah.

The grooming was just disgusting, you know? Yeah.

For him, I think he saw him...

One of my acting teachers from the very get-go, she said, never judge any character that you're playing.

Because if you judge your character as evil or bad, then you're going to play it almost like a caricature of who this person really is.

So you've got to approach it from everyone... everyone is motivated by something.

What, what did that tell you about what life inside that marriage had become?

and colin well why don't you share a little bit about uh yourself and your background please

well i'm still here because of Dr. Bryce over there.

Thankfully, our paths crossed.

A couple of years ago, I was living in Scottsdale and I was just, I was doing a podcast and someone mentioned to me that she had done some charity work with City of Hope Hospital and I I've always been interested in just supporting groups that are supporting people who are going through a cancer journey because I, up until that point, was a two-time cancer survivor.

I was working on the soap opera All My Children back in 2005, and I got diagnosed with testicular cancer.

So I had to have a surgery, radiation treatment, and then was going through for checkups.

And then a year later, they found a tumor on the other side.

But if you could share with our audience what that means and what you put together there, I think that'd be fun for everyone to hear.

What would keep you from your job? Peanut butter sandwiches? What is it that you have to watch to stay with your proper figure?

Uh, good question.

You know, I, I have a sweet tooth, so I do like occasionally, you know, donuts and chocolate chip cookies and cheeseburgers, but I just do it in moderation, you know? I think in America, they...

the portion sizes that they serve in restaurants is absurd.

You know, the portion sizes that you, they serve is essentially could feed three people, and I think it's conditioned us to believe that we need to eat everything on our plate.

And, you know, I, I remember going to my grandmother's house or just even growing up, and it was always like, "Well, you gotta finish everything on your plate." And it's like, "Well, what if I...

what if I'm full?" And so I think we, we've gotta be careful about what we communicate to our kids, um, because we all know when we're hungry and when we're not.

Yes, yes, yes, yes

What would keep you from your job? Peanut butter sandwiches? What is it that you have to watch to stay with your proper figure?

Uh, good question.

You know, I, I have a sweet tooth, so I do like occasionally, you know, d- donuts and chocolate chip cookies and cheeseburgers, but I just do it in moderation, you know? I think in America, they, the portion sizes that they serve in restaurants Is absurd.

You know, the portion sizes that you, they serve is, essentially could feed three people, and I think it's conditioned us to believe that we need to eat everything on our plate.

And, you know, I, I remember going to my grandmother's house or just even growing up and it was always like, "Well, you gotta finish everything on your plate." And it's like, well, what if I, what if I'm full? And so I think we, we've gotta be careful about what we communicate to our kids, um, because we all know when we're hungry and when we're not, and I think if you force people to finish everything on your plate when they don't feel like finishing everything on your plate, you're teaching people maybe some habits that are not necessarily healthy as we get older.

And you gotta look at just what's in the food.

You know, food I look at as fuel.

Yes, yes, yes, yes

Did you ever ruin an outfit? Did your pants ever rip? Did anything ever happen?

Well, funny you should say that, Cindy, because I was doing the Cynthia Rowley fashion show in New York City, and it was a big deal.

It was at Grand Central Station Terminal, and we heard there was a bunch of celebrities in the crowd, and I had these super tight leather pants that they fit me with.

And most models are tall and skinny.

I'm on the shorter side.

I'm like 5'11".

Most male models are like 6'2".

Yeah, well, of course I do.