So are you seeing that as well? Or do you think is there something else at work when campaigns don't take advantage of the digital tools that are available?

Yeah, excellent question.

There is very little Barack Obama did many things that I appreciate.

However, he was a terrible leader of the Democratic Party as an institution.

We lost, what was it, 700 or 800 state legislative seats, a bunch of legislative chambers, governorships, because this is the downside of focusing on the guy at the top.

They did not invest in infrastructure.

And in part, it is the job.

How do you make that case? How do you close that