Mm-hmm.

And, um, we, I, I've always loved the idea that, you know, the more the merrier.

You know? Like, if we can get out so many different groups and so many different stuff and saturate the market out there with all of the different stuff, it's, it's just gonna be good for the community.

You know, the community should have a lot of different things that they have the option to go to.

And so, um, and not just my stuff, you know, just like everybody's stuff.

And so I love working with Spar- um, Sparkly, Sparkly, and I love working with Kinky and the KELB, you know, 'cause Kinky and the KELB's been around just as long-

What you got?

Well, I will say that, you know, um, we always have ours- our happy, smiling faces sitting right up front.

There was nothing like that in the previous one.

Yeah.

That is, that is my favorite.

Um, that's something that I've been struggling with a lot in, in going back and watching famous, like, blood feuds type stuff is, uh, the moments where, uh, where it becomes a wrestling match somehow, um, which I think is starting to become a little bit frustrating to Joseph 'cause we picked a lot of, like, uh, we're, we're currently covering a lot of, like, indie, like, blood feasts from, like, the super indie era right now, and I keep going, "Well, this almost felt really cool," but then they started exchanging headlocks and going for pinfalls and, like, there's just regular submissions and shit like that.

And, um, I, I, I think that's because the bar for this sort of thing is so high.

You have things like this, and you have things like, again, Funk versus Lawler, um, or, um, even something like the, um, like the alley fight between Sergeant Slaughter and, um, and Pat Patterson, um, or, you know, the exploding ring death matches in FMW, or, like, the island death match in, in New Japan with Inoki and, and, um, like those kind of things where it's like, you know, this can't be settled, uh, through, through what we know and what we've experienced in 100 years of history of combat.

Um, so we must invent something even crazier or, or do something, like, even, even nuttier.

... resolve it in any kind of way.

Give everybody a little bit of your background, why you were the professional friend I turned to to discuss The Tell.

[laughs] I'm a licensed marriage and family therapist in California.

We're gonna be talking about things related to therapy and repressing thoughts and memories and things coming up at a later point through...

We call it...

What do we call it? Like, psychedelic-assisted therapy?

It was always there." Okay, Colette, before we get into MDMA, I'd love to know how common is it in your clinical experience for people to have no memory of childhood trauma and then suddenly remember it as adults?

Yeah, it's definitely something we see sort of sensationalized in kind of movies and maybe entertainment.

In, in my clinical experience, it's not something that I've come across much at all.