Was there any particular advocacy work that you were most proud of that you completed?

It's never-ending joy.

I was actually president on the Gold Coast as well for a few years in the branch there.

And I think it's really important that industry bodies like the UDA and probably UDAs is probably the most focused on planning and housing.

And it's a really important role to get involved in.

One I'm most proud of, I think...

The latest housing crisis, I think the supply has been found out, if you like, and I think the UDIA and others have been involved in shining a spotlight on that.

So what's the pathway like for perhaps graduates to go into Stockland?