And

then I graduated with my master's, but I wasn't able to get a job.

So I told my father, I said, listen, because they kept telling me that I couldn't, you know, at that time I had a very big afro, of course, and I wanted to interview and I didn't, I couldn't, you know, I didn't want to cut it.

And so I told my father, I said, listen, Pop, I got to get a job.

And he helped this gentleman who he knew, he referred me to him, I interviewed him.

and it was with the Texas Office of Minority Business Enterprise, called Tex-Ombi.

And I was a procurement specialist, which I didn't know what procurement was, but it was to get contracts for minority businesses with state government.

That is true.