Talk about that, that summer when you're out there roping with Rogers, what you learned when you were able to get around that guy in the rig that just knows how to win.

Yeah.

Yeah, no, he's, he's one of the great quarterbacks, you know, of this game.

Um-I learned so much from Rogers, I really did.

You know, as being a kid and getting in with him, I was thinking there was a lot of things he said to me, I'm like, "Oh, this guy's a butt hole," you know, or whatever.

But now I look back on it and I, I'm thankful for everything that we did and, and our, our year we roped together.

But yeah, it was, it was pretty cool.

Hmm.