
Cleve Simpson
Colorado State Senator and Minority Leader; General Manager at Rio Grande Water Conservation District
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Apr 30, 2026
Episode 5: Past & Future: Going Back to the Bank
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20:26Then I guess we can approach this as just like, you know, not even from a senator's point of view, just from you experience in life.

Cleave SimpsonGUEST
I think that the easy answer is go, yeah, there should be stiffer penalties.

Cleave SimpsonGUEST
There should be – you should have more accountability for your actions for particularly habitual or repeat offenders.

Cleave SimpsonGUEST
But then the other part of me, again, I have a little life experience under my belt as well and go, I know this is a much more nuanced and engaged conversation.

Cleave SimpsonGUEST
And like, how do you weigh in? You have to weigh in public safety and victims' rights into this conversation.