What made you decide to do what you

did? Well, certainly I've always been in love with my town or my city, Africa Town, Plateau, Africa Town, simply because my talent was not the greatest talent in my community.

And I realized that God had a hand in what I did what I accomplished because when I think of names like Evander Penn and James Brown and James Bradley, those guys who were great athletes, and I'm the one that made it.

And I made it because God had a hand in it and he had a plan for me.

So when we had a choice to stay in New York, go to Los Angeles with my business partner, we decided as a couple that we wanted to go home and do work or come home and do work here in Africatown.

So the last 50 years or so, that's what we've been doing.

We've been helping our neighbors.

Another project you're involved with, you're creating like a kind of a, I remember to some of the great Mobile athletes, satchel page hank garrick billy williams willie mccovey ozzie smith football player robert brazil why don't you tell the people what's involved with that

I know the last two years weren't great, but you always said you couldn't measure what Willie meant to the team by pure stats alone, even though it's towards the end of his career.

Oh, no.

His energy and awareness of the game and experience energized all of us.

Willie had time for the team.

You know, maybe I had time for a player that I would talk to.

Willie talked to everybody, and everybody talked to Willie.

And when Willie was healthy, he had bad knees, and sometimes they would swell up.

Who won about 12 games that year, right?