I think that's so interesting living in the, in America, there's no appreciation for the fact that the reformation led to some of the, probably some of the most densely populated martyr calendars of all time, because you've got just so many people standing up for their religion and the, in the post reformation England era and, and a lot of them were killed just killed for their faith killed for not following in the king's actions to to run away from Rome um and there's lots of traces of that like for example uh Downton Abbey I discussed this with Dr Taylor Marshall back probably a year and a half ago now the reason why there's so many Abbeys that are owned by religious families is because after the Reformation the king's like that's mine I'm gonna give it to rich families What's it like living in the post-Reformation, 500 years later, seeing all these old Catholic buildings? What's it like being in this historical place?

That's a great point about Downton Abbey.

Actually, I never thought of it that way.

Actually, that makes perfect sense.

That would be why this is stolen land.

Yeah, I think what's it like? It's in some ways sobering.

In some ways, it's kind of saddening.

And I