interview

from whatever six years ago or whatever it was um but yeah so you know i was the new dean of the delman so there wasn't of med school before I got there.

So that was an awesome experience and opportunity to be able to start something from nothing.

And so I was super focused on taking advantage of that opportunity and really trying to get better aligned with society's interests.

So how do we create an academic health center that's still focused on innovation, but directing that towards improving health wherever it can and taking waste out of the system, which is not, that second part's definitely not a part of what normally happens in the academic health system.

And so I had a great experience.

I feel good about the progress we made and in all the arenas that we were working on, but we got stuck.

And as you've done that, what have you found that's been most successful potentially? And what have you found that sort of holds you back a little bit as you're doing that work?