I wanted to ask, what are you seeing with customers out there generally, as far as their maturity for managing windows?

It actually varies because it is different from each business.

I guess the more traditional way is still that hybrid join environment posture where there's still quite resistance to move away to a cloud-first approach and move away from traditional device solutions like SCCM or NECM.

Yeah, that is mostly what we see in bigger organizations.

I'm talking about 3,500, 4,000 and higher devices.

I think they were still quite resistant in making that big shift on managing devices directly in Intune.

So then they find ways to still additionally manage devices in SCCM.

So where do they start and what do they do next?