So I guess I'd love you to take us back to that time and what was happening and what ultimately led you to begin creating a different way of living, but also practicing law.

of course.

2013 for me was that moment that year.

And as life happens to throw things at you, a series of things had occurred that led me to a moment where I went, oh my gosh, like, what is this life that I've built? The first of those was in 2012.

I had my first daughter.

And at that point in time, I was running two businesses, a law firm being one of them, The law firm was not particularly in a state where I was able to take maternity leave.

And so I was back at work very, very quickly, very stressed.

Okay.