So talk about that paradox there and kind of the foundation of kind of what that means.

Yeah, that wasn't the original title of the essay.

And then one day it just hit me.

I can't remember what the original was.

Lately, and I would say in the last three years, I've been diving into a lot of literature about good and evil.

And my very first book club study hall, the curriculum we had gone through was exactly this exploration.

And then the second one that we went through was on what is forbidden, right? Like forbidden love, forbidden knowledge, et cetera.

When we kind of close the doors on someone like Kathy, how should Kathy be represented to the swath of people that are going to be introduced to her in October through the Netflix adaptation and the people that are inevitably going to read the book either this month before the show or after the show?